1/3/2024 0 Comments Whats a bag in spadesAs such, I go ahead and bid the 2 because its more likely my partner gets set than I only pull 1 trick. With all that said, I'm willing to bet there's a much greater than 99% chance that we take 2 tricks and far less than 1% that we only take 1 trick. Second most likely outcome is to set the opponents. I personally believe the most likely outcome is opponents win. If it fails late, its just a loss anyway.)Īnd Spades has taught me that the game laughs at you when you try to make plans like that. (Depending on when the Nil fails, anyway. I agree with what you have said, though I feel if my partner fails their Nil, we are more likely to have set our opponents. Though my preferred play is that they feed me a trick with one of those 10s and then I take 5 tricks. But the odds are better that we sandbag them down and lose the Nil, so I'll take the extra 10 points to help us in the future. And in the <1% chance that CookedOnCards (and only CookedOnCards) is holding the 4 spades we need to protect us, and only those 4 spades, then yeah, we might only take 1 trick. We ain't ducking much with those spades, unfortunately.īetter to bid 2 and get the extra 10 points. And that's when we are looking at that horrible Spades collection. So they'll be looking to feed you more tricks so they don't bag down. Why? Well, by the time spades gets around to being played, opponents will know where they stand on their tricks. Honestly, the 5 spades we have is so tough that you are most likely taking 3 spades. And that's basically a requirement in order to not take a 2nd spade. What are the chances that it breaks like that? And even moreso: it has to break like that with East (CookedOnCards) holding the 89QK. There are 8 spades out there that don't belong to you: 2345 89QK. In short: bid 2 and see how this baby plays out. I do expect partner to have a great Nil though because under normal circumstances this is a 4-bid, so all 13 accounted for. My number 1 priority is stopping opponents from winning. If it's clear (s)he's going for it, they would get no support from me. Nil has to make a decision immediately as to either help set the 9 or make his/her Nil. The real challenge for this round is how it plays out. In both they can't know where the other tricks are for sure as the Nil likely has a point or two in it anyway. Both do not tell your opponents what your plan is. You just gain an extra bag and 10 fewer points. And the 2 doesn't hurt as much if I end up going for the set.Ī 1 bid makes no sense to me because there is no gain versus a 2. The 2 bid is because, realistically I'm taking at least 2. That could happen depending on what my opponents are most afraid of. I don't like my hand for setting unless I get a gimme or two early on. Whether I play to set or bag them depends on the first couple of tricks. Normally this is a pretty easy 4 bid but I have to stop opponents from winning. Sorry for bugging you with all the questions when you're just trying to enjoy being baked! :) Who was kibbitzing you? What were they thinking? And, as you say, if you don't take early tricks with middling cards, then you still have the second chance of bagging them out.Īnd, I know a sample size of 1 is not super consequential, but I'm curious: what happened? Oh, OK, I guess that actually sounds pretty good. But then actually maybe your intent is to take 5 and you give yourself the best chance of doing that by bidding 1 and then hoping they will let you take some early tricks with middling cards. I still think it would be super hard to only take 2 tricks with your hand. Yeah, I read your reply and it makes sense as well. My first hope was that I would have the same thought process as you! But then I read your reply and then my second hope was that you'd comment on my reply. Thanks so much for commenting on my reply.
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